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Extremely random post/ question here fellas.

I was born in '82 so it was before my time but I do remember learning about JFK/the assassination in school. At work the other night during lunch we were talking about him and there was a young 21 year old who seemed clueless that he was assassinated. He knew who we were talking about(allegedly) but knew nothing of the whole ordeal, I kind of got the feeling he figured he was still alive or died of old age. It scared me a little that things like this aren't even on the radar of this generation although its been so long and so much has happened since I guess I get it. I wondered if it was even still talked about in schools.

Since my late teens to this day I'm fascinated(terrible word to use I know)by it. I have read the Warren Reports, Read several books, watched Documentaries, and even though it was Hollywood, always liked that Kevin Costner movie "JFK" where he portrayed Jim Garrison, who in real life tried to bring charges against others because he believed there was more to the story. I know things like this can take on a life of their own and sprout so many crazy stories, some of which do seem crazy, but there are also A LOT of things that do not add up or seem to odd to be a coincidence.

For all that were alive in that time or are in anyway familiar with it what are your thoughts?

Lone Gunmen or some kind of Conspiracy?
Any thoughts on who you think was behind it if not LHO?



As I said, such a random topic and question to ask lol just have some free time this afternoon and thought I'd ask since its such a diverse group with ages, locations and such.
 

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Let me speak on behalf of the young’s and say i hate it here :LOL: most of my generation and the ones under mine are helpless i feel like i was born about 30 years to late. That being said i also think he was apart of it but as everyone else said he didn’t act alone
 

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I think Oswald was the shooter but don't think he acted alone. The fact that he was quickly silenced supports that theory. BTW have you read Killing Kennedy by Bill O'Rielly?

Have not read that one but am aware of it. Actually a few weeks ago I was reading about that book seeing if it needed to be in the collection. Is it a good read/worth a buy? Only reason I never bought it when it came out was I'm not a huge o reiley fan. I can take him or leave him




As for me, I believe he knew it was going to happen but on the fence if he actually pulled the trigger. I have no doubts there was more than 1 shooter as the Zapruder video footage should prove that IMO. Was he innocent? No. Was he set up? Yes. They say LHO was a nut who did it to make a name for himself, to go down in history as doing something for the cause yet in all footage of him after the killing it doesn't come off that way at all. One could argue that after doing it, being caught, and seeing no way out his only defense was to lie about it but I'm not sure how much water that holds with me. Look at the interview when police bring him out to the media. He seemed scared as h*ll. Is it the act of someone who realize the juice wasn't worth the squeeze or did it dawn on him that he was hung out to dry?

A reporter flat asked him if he knew he was charged with killing the president. He(LHO)says something a long the lines of not being aware he is charged with it. The reporter said you ARE being charged with it..The look on his(LHO) face is that of a man who just realized he got screwed! I also agree that he was offed to keep the story from getting out.

This thing has so many layers to it it's crazy. How it may tie in to L.B.J. the CIA, Vietnam, Castro, Texas Oil men.

I like to hear different opinions on this. I like hearing from people who were around and lived through that time. Hopefully some others chime in.
 

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i grew up in the mountains where guns were a daily part of our life---I challenge any man to go buy a bolt action rifle and fire it semi accurate that many times in the same amount of time.
I was in 6th grade at the time and remember the teacher bringing a radio into the room--crying---and told us our president had been killed---put our head on the desk and pray for our country----even at that age---i doubted their story and lost some faith in our government ~~ fast forward--Dr Martin Luther KIng ~do you honestly believe Ray killed him?----HE was used as a patsy to take the fall----OUR GOVERNMENT did the hit on both me---I lost a whole lot more trust in our gov.----then vietnam erased all trust of any kind for our govt.
Epstein is a good example of what happens any time dirt is got on the rich and powerfull politicians--or someone is about to expose them-----I AM SHOCKED that Trump was not assinated and no one is held accountable~~sorry for being long winded
 

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Will, I agree with you on the shots also. In any case a person would think the first attempt would be the best chance for a successful hit. Plenty of time to relax aim and squeeze. I just don't see how any rational thinking person could go along with how they say it happened. Even on the surface it seems sketchy, but once you start seeing and learning little details that came out afterward it looks even worse. Again, so many layers to it. It's very interesting to study up on it and learn things from witnesses whose testimony was left out, witnesses who mysteriously died after. I could talk, listen, or read about it forever. Lots of info out there.
 

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The shooter on the hill shot Kennedy, another theory was a shooter in the storm drain along the road the Motor cade was traveling. People are dying off who know what really happened, I hope during my life time I hear what the truth is. JMO

Yes, If my memory serves me correctly the storm drain shooter was alleged to been "Handsome" Johnny Roselli who was a mobster that was recruited by the CIA to possibly help take out Castro since the mob had casinos in Cuba. Theres a lot of info out there of a man by the name of James Files who was connected with the mafia who was apart of the assassination team. He doesn't seem like a whack job either and his story doesn't sound far fetched but he may not be a loon talking crazy, he could be making it up for monetary reasons the story was interesting though. Some people hear these kinds of things and think "with all the different stories its hard to believe them" but I think that's EXACTLY how they wanted it to ensure the truth never came out.....So crazy but so interesting and even scary to think if the inner workings of a government cover up
 

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Pres Kennedy's brother Robert was going after the mafia hot and heavy as US Attorney general, after receiving lots of money from them to finance their campaign. "Cut off the head and the tail quits wagging".
Mafia Kingfish is a good book. About New Orleans boss Carlos Marcello and his feud with the Kennedys.
 

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Pres Kennedy's brother Robert was going after the mafia hot and heavy as US Attorney general, after receiving lots of money from them to finance their campaign. "Cut off the head and the tail quits wagging".
Mafia Kingfish is a good book. About New Orleans boss Carlos Marcello and his feud with the Kennedys.

Yep, some have suggested Joe Kennedy Sr.(either himself or someone close) requested Frank Sinatra, who was close with Sam Giancanna from Chicago, and also wanted to help the campaign, for the mobs help but who knows. It's a fact that Sinatra was connected, and also fact that after he got elected Kennedy distanced himself from Sinatra for that reason. Then of course Bobby went after the mob and unions hard. The Kennedy Hoffa stuff is pretty interesting also.
 

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I was on a greyhound bus travelling up the east coast when we heard of the killing. I was headed to Newport, Rhode Island to a Navy school. I remember that there was nothing on television for at least two weeks but following the killing. I voted for JFK. I have red several stories about him. He liked women. I read one story that said he ran Marilyn Monroe around the white house - both naked. Frank Sinatra was very interested in politics and wanted to be Kennedy's Vice President. Sinatra even built a helicopter landing pad at his home in California so the President could land there. When he wasn't selected it was reported that he took a sledge hammer and destroyed the pad. There was all kinds of stories about "who done it". I believe that Oswald was paid big bucks and was the scapegoat. Robert Kennedy was also a strange dude. As Attorney General he went after Jimmy Hoffa who was the International President of the Teamster Union. If was reported that he even challenged Hoffa to arm wrestling matches. It was also reported that he was with Marilyn Monroe on the night she was found dead in her bed. Their daddy made a lot of his money during pro-abition by hauling liquor from Canada to the U.S. and selling it for a large profit. A very interesting family to say the least.
 

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You bet there was a conspiracy! As all can see politics have been dirty for many many years. Power and Money. Kennedy was a decent man and a patriot and stood in the way of many a dollar to be made. Sound familiar
If folks paid attention, one thing is obvious.
When there is an event involving the government, or politicians, there is a consistent theme.
If there is a disaster, say and airplane crash. Immediately the area is roped off and every fragment os the airplane is examined.
A couple of decades ago there was an airline crash off the east coast. Several witnesses reported they had seen a fiery trail, like a missile, headed toward the airplane in conjunction with the crash. The Government ignored this. When a private citizen recovered a piece of material and tried to send it to experts for an analysis, trying to prove it was rocket propellent, they were arrested and sent to prison.

Contrast that, if the government officials are involved, Ruby Ridge, Waco/Branch Davidians, Oklahoma City, within a couple of days the place is bulldozed over and covered up. Then they spin a story and name a person to be blamed.

The Kennedy assassination took place a few weeks after Kennedy made a speech warning us about the power and overreach of big government. Supposedly Oswald did it, Ruby kills Oswald, and Ruby dies of a heart attack. Neat and tidy.
Then government officials tell us who and how,
It makes sense to me.

When Lincoln was assassinated, they killed several people as well as the Innkeeper where John Wilkes Booth spent the night prior to the assassination.

They don't take any chances. Loose lips sink ambitions as well as ships.
 
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