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What is the objective? Traditional brace beagles

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I was recently reading an article in Fur-Fish-Game by Bob Ford titled Catch & Release Rabbits. The jist of the article is about how the author keeps his dogs in hunting shape through out the year. He writes in the article that field trials are away to year-round condition a dog. He talks about the traditional brace beagle in field trials and this is what I don't understand. In the article the author writes " I first got into beagles in 1985. Then, field trials in my area were strictly for dogs that could not hunt. The traditional brace beagle was popular in trials then. It was slow, unable to find a rabbit, keep a chase going and could not circle one. Thankfully, today there are many field trial options that promote hunting dogs." So my question is, what is the point of brace beagles and what do their field trials prove? Just curious. I am a pleasure hunter and I've never been to a field trial of any type. Can someone please explain?
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Brace beagles are only a hobby enjoyed by some people, mostly elderly folks. The trials just prove who can track a rabbit most accurately under their interpretation of the AKC rules. Nobody today pretends any actual gun hunting can be done successfully with a traditional brace beagle.

Originally, running hounds in a brace was the way the majority of field trials were done. Over many years, the “fad” in brace field trials gradually moved toward a slow, conservative hound who seldom made mistakes on the line. This was taken to the extreme by judges and competitors until the hounds were slowed to a walk, sometimes down to a few steps, creating hounds useless to hunters and leading to the development of “gundog trials”, usually running in small packs and later even “gundog brace” that we have today. That’s a very quick summation of how they came about.
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Good explanation and summary
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Walk and bawl is what they were called by men when I was a kid. Make a rabbit move but never push him hard.
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I understand totally what traditional Brace beagles are but before we get to far off the rails …….not all but a lot of Akc dogs today go back to those same dogs, everything has evolved in AKC INCLUDING the many formats we have today in field trials, dogs and dog speed , don’t be to overly critical when you see WALK A LINE SAMMY in your gun dog pedigree 😂
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I attended a traditional brace trial back in December. It wasn’t my cup of tea. Now to answer the question what is the purpose of traditional brace beagles. The purpose is a group of hounds men and hounds women having a ball doing what they love. When I attended I was 71 years old and they made me feel young. Many were using walking canes and one was using a walker. There was no judge bashing or whining or being a total jerk. Everyone was friendly and in my opinion they felt blessed that they could still do what love. They feed’em they enjoyem and more power to them.
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I understand totally what traditional Brace beagles are but before we get to far off the rails …….not all but a lot of Akc dogs today go back to those same dogs, everything has evolved in AKC INCLUDING the many formats we have today in field trials, dogs and dog speed , don’t be to overly critical when you see WALK A LINE SAMMY in your gun dog pedigree 😂
If you go back 80-100 years, every AKC beagle today - even show beagles, formal pack beagles, etc - will have some hounds in the pedigree that ran in brace trials. The exception might be an English pack hound that has been recently imported then registered with AKC.

What I don’t want in my pedigrees are any brace hounds since the 1950s. Hard to avoid them entirely, though.
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Thanks for a little insight to what brace beagles and their field trials are about. That's what I like about this site. You can learn a few things from others. Another thing I've learned so far is the term "check", I always called it " he's trying to figure out which way the rabbit went". Lol
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Brace beagles are only a hobby enjoyed by some people, mostly elderly folks. The trials just prove who can track a rabbit most accurately under their interpretation of the AKC rules. Nobody today pretends any actual gun hunting can be done successfully with a traditional brace beagle.

Originally, running hounds in a brace was the way the majority of field trials were done. Over many years, the “fad” in brace field trials gradually moved toward a slow, conservative hound who seldom made mistakes on the line. This was taken to the extreme by judges and competitors until the hounds were slowed to a walk, sometimes down to a few steps, creating hounds useless to hunters and leading to the development of “gundog trials”, usually running in small packs and later even “gundog brace” that we have today. That’s a very quick summation of how they came about.
That's the way it was in the 70's. Dogs would stand in one place for 15 minutes and win the trils. Not my cup of tea. Things are much better now even with all the complaints you hear.
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All my dogs have some brace to slow them down and put a good nose on them. I like the slower type a lot better .
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To set a standard in what a rabbit dog should not be
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I attended a traditional brace trial back in December. It wasn’t my cup of tea. Now to answer the question what is the purpose of traditional brace beagles. The purpose is a group of hounds men and hounds women having a ball doing what they love. When I attended I was 71 years old and they made me feel young. Many were using walking canes and one was using a walker. There was no judge bashing or whining or being a total jerk. Everyone was friendly and in my opinion they felt blessed that they could still do what love. They feed’em they enjoyem and more power to them.
Excellent answer and you don’t hear them trying to force their opinions on other beagles like some of our expert’s.
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