[Marshall Rowley]

I was reading a 84 better beagling...and I seen an article saying something about slow dogs being popular for a lot of people back then ...
Was this true???

 

[Huntsman]

Not to me or the people I knew. We wanted the same type I am running today.

 

[Burnett]

They were popular.But their rejects made excellent gun dogs.I had 3 back in the late 70s that would run a rabbit round and round until you killed it.And fair at finding one.I have had slow dogs for 40 years but not walkie talkies.Mine keep the rabbit moving at a slow speed and talk to him.Im having a great race right now.ha.Never understood the desire to have walkie talkies The ones i saw didnt move the raBbit
but the people that liked them did like em.

 

[Marshall Rowley]

They were popular.But their rejects made excellent gun dogs.I had 3 back in the late 70s that would run a rabbit round and round until you killed it.And fair at finding one.I have had slow dogs for 40 years but not walkie talkies.Mine keep the rabbit moving at a slow speed and talk to him.Im having a great race right now.ha.Never understood the desire to have walkie talkies The ones i saw didnt move the raBbit
but the people that liked them did like em.

thanks burnett
One man's trash is another man's treasure I reckon...

I'm guessing the rabbit wouldn't take off like a bat outta hell with dogs like that...

They would just gradually move on??


What are some slow bloodlines out there??

 

[Huntsman]

We started Gundog trials in the 70s because the brace walkie talkies and their rejects were no longer suitable for actual hunting. Hunters got tired of getting brace hounds that were worthless to them. The brace hounds I watched would bark 8-12 times at each rabbit footprint, take a few steps to the next track and do it again. No search - handlers kept them on leads until the people with sticks jumped a rabbit. Sometimes they might “run” several braces on the same rabbit. I bet traditional brace hounds are the same today (not talking about Gundog brace). Thank goodness the hare trialers had not ruined their hounds the way the brace people did, and it was a lot of that hare blood that we used to bring back the cottontail hunting beagle we have today. Hare hounds were probably better then than they are today, or at least ran a closer style.

 

[Burnett]

This is a short clip of the race im having today.The walkie talkie folks would call these greyhounds.ha.But this is the way i like it and as slow as id want it.The rabbit dont get far ahead of them.Ive had the same blood for decades.Goes back to a dog named Burroughs Ike.He was out of Deer park Ike and a walkie talkie female.All my dogs have had that blood top and bottom.Theres other folks out there with better slow dogs than mine,But idont know where theyre at or whos got em.Wish i did and they were close by.I aint driving no where.

 

[Smoker]

where can i get some?

 

[Huntsman]

I saw Ike and Spike at trials and privately a few times. Conservative, mostly Pearson Creek lines behind them. Mostly dark black and white in color, and somewhere around 13 to 13.5 inches. Charlie Allen had them. He lived in Deer Park, a northern Cincinnati suburb. He would bring them to the Great Miami (Midwest) trials, but his hounds were more popular when he took them to Lake City and other UBGF trials.

Burnett: After watching your videos, I do believe Ike and Spike had a little more foot than what you are running today.

 

[Huntsman]

I don’t think Charlie Allen was the breeder of Ike and Spike. Seems that may have been Arnold Hornsby. Maybe someone knows...

 

[Marshall Rowley]

This is a short clip of the race im having today.The walkie talkie folks would call these greyhounds.ha.But this is the way i like it and as slow as id want it.The rabbit dont get far ahead of them.Ive had the same blood for decades.Goes back to a dog named Burroughs Ike.He was out of Deer park Ike and a walkie talkie female.All my dogs have had that blood top and bottom.Theres other folks out there with better slow dogs than mine,But idont know where theyre at or whos got em.Wish i did and they were close by.I aint driving no where.

Ain't nothing wrong with that burnett

Good stuff👍

 

[Burnett]

I saw Ike and Spike at trials and privately a few times. Conservative, mostly Pearson Creek lines behind them. Mostly dark black and white in color, and somewhere around 13 to 13.5 inches. Charlie Allen had them. He lived in Deer Park, a northern Cincinnati suburb. He would bring them to the Great Miami (Midwest) trials, but his hounds were more popular when he took them to Lake City and other UBGF trials.

Burnett: After watching your videos, I do believe Ike and Spike had a little more foot than what you are running today.

I dont doubt they did.Burroughs Ike s mother was a walkie talkie.Ike was a slow speed.Wayne Thompson bred him.His story to me if i remember correctly was that two pups lived in that cross and ike was too slow for him.Carlos Burroughs ended up with him and liked him and bred him.I was friends with his brother Carson and he got me into the Ike dogs.I met Carson when i was 17 in 1977.Hes the man i bought the 3 rejects from i hunted for years and later Carson got me into the slower dogs.

 

[Marshall Rowley]

I dont doubt they did.Burroughs Ike s mother was a walkie talkie.Ike was a slow speed.Wayne Thompson bred him.His story to me if i remember correctly was that two pups lived in that cross and ike was too slow for him.Carlos Burroughs ended up with him and liked him and bred him.I was friends with his brother Carson and he got me into the Ike dogs.I met Carson when i was 17 in 1977.Hes the man i bought the 3 rejects from i hunted for years and later Carson got me into the slower dogs.

The rejects you spoke of...they must of been doing something right for you to hunt them for years after??

 

[Burnett]

The rejects you spoke of...they must of been doing something right for you to hunt them for years after??

I bought the rejects from Carson in 1977.Hunted them several years before i got into the slower dogs.My first Ike dogs were in the mid to late 80s.My Best Ike dog was born in 1990.He was Ikes Big nose.He is in every dog i own nows pedegree.most of em top and bottom.He was a great dog.

 

[Huntsman]

You can be proud of sticking with your bloodline all these years. That’s impressive.

 

[Marshall Rowley]

You can be proud of sticking with your bloodline all these years. That’s impressive.

Yeah that is...

 

[Burnett]

where can i get some?

I will have pups hopefully in the future.

 

[Marshall Rowley]

I bought the rejects from Carson in 1977.Hunted them several years before i got into the slower dogs.My first Ike dogs were in the mid to late 80s.My Best Ike dog was born in 1990.He was Ikes Big nose.He is in every dog i own nows pedegree.most of em top and bottom.He was a great dog. View attachment 53295

Man I like the looks of that hound..


I enjoy old pictures burnet!!!

 

[JOHN MAYNARD]

I bought the rejects from Carson in 1977.Hunted them several years before i got into the slower dogs.My first Ike dogs were in the mid to late 80s.My Best Ike dog was born in 1990.He was Ikes Big nose.He is in every dog i own nows pedegree.most of em top and bottom.He was a great dog. View attachment 53295

I was reading a 84 better beagling...and I seen an article saying something about slow dogs being popular for a lot of people back then ...
Was this true???

My dad had Purchase for hounds years ago that was all pro blood.They had great confirmation very similar to a basset hound.They was AKC restaurant and had great pedigrees they were true walkie-talkies.Back in the late days walkie-talkiesWas favorable by many and they trailing.They were severely line control very very strong noses and would take forever to circle a rabbit if use for hunting.As mentioned they would bark 12 to 15 times if not more on every footprint and take a step or two and continue so on. Excellent in the line control and the time of Berks per the tracking they had super noses.I’m sure Mr. done could feel you in on it completely.As the ones we on was as I mentioned above so after about six months we did end up selling them they was beautiful dolls very loud mouth and super strong noses but the slowest and barking his house that I’ve ever seen they were not lose the track and we do it from daylight to dark..

 

[SLOW DOGS]

I to like the slow dogs .I have run with Burnett and my dogs barely could keep up with his dogs I just bought a traditional brace aka walkie talkie for breeding to a little male I have .she does not stand and bark in the track like described see moves along at a walk so see is a brace reject I guess

 

[Burnett]

I to like the slow dogs .I have run with Burnett and my dogs barely could keep up with his dogs I just bought a traditional brace aka walkie talkie for breeding to a little male I have .she does not stand and bark in the track like described see moves along at a walk so see is a brace reject I guess

Hi Richard,Good luck with your new dog and breeding.Dont think ive ever heard someone say their dogs could barely keep
up with mine.