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I’m just trying to say don’t get your information about this vaccine from a beagle dog forum or other internet blab fest . Talk with your primary care provider. I know some doctors and nurses getting vaccinated and some want to wait. But don’t try convincing people to not get vaccinated because of some internet rumor . There’s all kinds of falsehoods spread on the internet. Some of them by foreign countries trying to cause harm to the good old USA.
Mattdog- I work in a hospital and I get my information from the Dr. and RN's, a lot of the medical professionals are waiting to get the vaccine. Their thinking is it is a rushed vaccine with no data for 5-10-15 year studies.
There is a vaccine (HPV) that is offered for adolescents for cancer via skin to skin contact. It has been found out that there are now problems because of the vaccine. They have done studies in 2013, 2014, 2016 and will continue to follow the individuals.
Now I would think about the Covid studies results after a 5-10-15 follow up of the vaccine.
I am not not basing my decision on the internet let alone this beagle site, I will bide my time keep the mask, social distancing and see where this goes. So like my medical staff I work with , YES I will wait to get the shot. JMHO
 

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Having been vaccinated, I will worry a LOT less about getting sick from the virus. That is what changes for me. Crowds, etc, won’t scare me like they do now. Be able to feel comfortable again eating out, shopping on weekends, playing with grandkids, maybe attending a sporting event, or even when someone shakes my hand. If it turns out the new variant strains are not covered, we’ll deal with that, maybe with another booster. Eventually we will get on top of this problem. If everyone gets vaccinated, we can get to herd immunity a lot quicker.
JMO- It may be a false sense of security, the virus will mutate and as Fauci has stated it will get worse.
 

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JMO- It may be a false sense of security, the virus will mutate and as Fauci has stated it will get worse.
Agree, it may get worse with new strains. But after having the second dose, we will be nearly 100% safe from the original strain. There may be a period of time before any other (newer) strains become widespread enough to be worrisome to the average person. If and when they are, we’ll see how the health and science experts want us to proceed. Getting people immune will be the only way to stop Covid, either by vaccine or natural immunity from exposure. We don’t know yet how long immunity will last.
 

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I agree 100% Ken . I would not put my life in his hands . But I don’t fault anyone getting vaccinated unless you are under 45 years of age . If I were over 75 I would get the vaccination , but not because Fauci said so , but because risk of death from Covid in that group is the highest , as with dying from anything at that age .
 

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Mattdog- I work in a hospital and I get my information from the Dr. and RN's, a lot of the medical professionals are waiting to get the vaccine. Their thinking is it is a rushed vaccine with no data for 5-10-15 year studies.
There is a vaccine (HPV) that is offered for adolescents for cancer via skin to skin contact. It has been found out that there are now problems because of the vaccine. They have done studies in 2013, 2014, 2016 and will continue to follow the individuals.
Now I would think about the Covid studies results after a 5-10-15 follow up of the vaccine.
I am not not basing my decision on the internet let alone this beagle site, I will bide my time keep the mask, social distancing and see where this goes. So like my medical staff I work with , YES I will wait to get the shot. JMHO

Good for you.
 

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Fauci has contradicted himself so many times and has proven himself to be a political animal. If you're making life decisions based on his statements beware.
He is a medical specialist with some knowledge on the subject. I would not want to ingest Bleach as someone once stated. So how's the bleach working for you Ken? It's a miracle I'm cured. LOL JMO
 

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He is a medical specialist with some knowledge on the subject. I would not want to ingest Bleach as someone once stated. So how's the bleach working for you Ken? It's a miracle I'm cured. LOL JMO
I didn't recommend any bleach for your information. That's an unnecessary attack on me for offering an opinion on Dr Fauci. I didn't offer any opinion on the vaccine. If you were rational you would see that. He has been all over the place on his recommendations was the point I was making and that I wouldn't want to make any decisions based on his advice. I certainly never mentioned President Trump who if you were honest never told anyone to ingest bleach. Your unfounded attack on me is the reason. I usually don't post on these type threads.
 

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Ken I didn't write that to be mean or attack you. It just that Fauci is all over the place and the people of this country listen to him. I am skeptic with the knowledge that is stated at times. Based on your posts you appear knowledgeable and have made good statements on this site. I don't believe he's in it for politic gain. I also did not mentioned Trump by name, you put that twist on it.
I use bleach to be meant as a funny response that is why I put LOL.
I hope you stay safe and the shot works for you and the millions that have received it.
I am still on the fence as of now. JMO
 

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I glad you and your wife recovered from the COVID 19. People are not immune from the virus, the antibodies that have fought off the Covid makes it less likely to get it again, but there is a chance you could get Covid. It is not known how long the antibodies last to help fight off the virus if you have had Covid 19.
Stay safe!
 

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When evaluating the effectiveness of the vaccines on new strains bear in mind how the idea of developing vaccines came about in the first place.The idea came from the observation that dairy farmers and milkmaids who were exposed to cowpox didn't get smallpox, even though they aren't the same.
 

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I noticed in the news yesterday, the new administration is opening up the Border to Illegal Aliens again.
COVID vaccine is in short supply. However there is adequate vaccine to vaccinate the Illegals when they enter the country.
Knoxville teachers are having to drive 80 miles to another county for their vaccine.
No habla espanol? No Vaccine
It must be safe.
We can't open the schools because teachers in East Tennessee have not been vaccinated.
President Joe promised he had a plan to streamline Covid prevention.
I prefer "Uncle Joe"
 

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Vaccine: Wednesday's published results, from a mass vaccination campaign (Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine) in Israel, give strong reassurance that the benefits seen in smaller, limited testing persisted when the vaccine was used much more widely in a general population with various ages and health conditions.

The vaccine was 92% effective at preventing severe disease after two shots and 62% after one. Its estimated effectiveness for preventing death was 72% two to three weeks after the first shot, a rate that may improve as immunity builds over time. It seemed as effective in folks over 70 as in younger people.
 
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