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Thanks Jim, That makes sense, I have read several interesting articles about how the vaccine is causing the virus to mutate ,because it is not a net zero vaccine, sort of like if you have and infection and take antibiotics but dont take the full 10 course because you feel better, the germ has not been completely killed and mutates and now is antibody resistant, same thing happening with the virus, this seems to make sense, what do you think .
 

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Thanks Jim, That makes sense, I have read several interesting articles about how the vaccine is causing the virus to mutate ,because it is not a net zero vaccine, sort of like if you have and infection and take antibiotics but dont take the full 10 course because you feel better, the germ has not been completely killed and mutates and now is antibody resistant, same thing happening with the virus, this seems to make sense, what do you think .
Thanks,brewer,I'm glad I helped.You're on the right track.I like how you put it,sort of like with antibiotics.The key difference is that antibiotics are only usefull against bacteria,not virus.What happens when you stop short of the full course prescribed is that some bacteria won't be killed.Enough may be killed to help you feel better,but the ones left alive are the very strongest and most resistant to that particular antibiotic,and they live inside of you making new copies of themselves that may give you a harder time next time you treat them with the same drug.With this virus and mutations it's a slightly different route to a similar end.Mutations happen all the time in nature,but usually the ones that give an advantage are most likely to become more common.With covid,as with most vaccines,we have some so called breakthrough cases,like Brian's.Since he tested positive,and his family is sick too,he must have some live virus in him now.Obviously,they somehow evaded the vaccine.So,like the bacteria who survived the short course of antibiotics,they are more resistant to the antibodies created in response to the vaccine than were the ones killed by the antibodies.So,if Brian infects someone else,they will be infected by the viruses that evaded the antibodies his body made to the vaccine.All of you who breed dogs see where this is going.That doesn't mean the vaccines don't work or aren't a good idea,after all he's still with us and doing better than his family.Please keep us informed,Brian.Did this help,brewer?
 

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Hope you get better soon spini. Praying for a speedy recovery. The thing I cant understand with this virus is, they say 51.2 percent have been fully vaccinated in the us, but i don't see or hear of any statistics that shows that its getting better. JMO
If anything it's getting worse, because they are already shutting restaurants down again in my area.
 

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Hope you get better soon spini. Praying for a speedy recovery. The thing I cant understand with this virus is, they say 51.2 percent have been fully vaccinated in the us, but i don't see or hear of any statistics that shows that its getting better. JMO
I think it’s close to 75% of adults in the U.S. have now had at least one dose. But it’s the other 25% who are filling up ICUs today.
 

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How do we know that 25% of unvaccinated people are the ones in the icu?
You turned it around. What I said was that 25% of the U.S. adult population is still not vaccinated. And the ICUs are filling up across the country with them. Vaccinated people who get Covid typically have mild symptoms, like Spini has experienced. Unvaccinated people are over 10 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die if they get Covid, according to the CDC.
 

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You turned it around. What I said was that 25% of the U.S. adult population is still not vaccinated. And the ICUs are filling up across the country with them. Vaccinated people who get Covid typically have mild symptoms, like Spini has experienced. Unvaccinated people are over 10 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die if they get Covid, according to the CDC.
That's what I'm asking, how do you know that those people that are filling up the icu are the 25% of unvaccinated people?
 

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Our local health department puts out the statistics for the number of people in the ICU and on ventilators. It’s easy enough for the hospitals to know. When they are admitted they do a health history. Electronic records note things like vaccination status as well.
 

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One thing for sure , we can’t trust the CDC or what Fauci says and what Biden says .
Thank you Matt.

I have to disagree with you, Marshall. I think the CDC, Dr. Fauci, and President Biden are doing the best they can with this pandemic. We have to remember some of it is "learn as we go", since this is not something we have experienced before, at least not in modern times. Because of that, some mistakes can be expected.
 

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Thank you Matt.

I have to disagree with you, Marshall. I think the CDC, Dr. Fauci, and President Biden are doing the best they can with this pandemic. We have to remember some if it is "learn as we go", since this is not something we have experienced before, at least not in modern times. Because of that, some mistakes can be expected.
Too bad that wasn't the attitude during Trump. It was all Trump is killing people!
 

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prayers for speedy recovery~
i just got second shot of maderna----first made me the sickest i have ever been----heart doctor told me to not take the second shot---was due april3rd
just had a visit with pulmonologist and he said go get it NOW and was upset that the heart specialist told me not to take it----in so many words he insinuated if i didnt get it and ended up with covid i was on my on
Heart doctor probably told you not to because one of the main side affects to the Pfizer and moderns vaccine is inflammation around the heart

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