[Hunt like a dog]

This subject don't show up to often at trials, it did this weekend at music city. I was wondering do any of y'all test derbies while training? I was in quarantine due to exposure this week so could not be at the trial as planned, I heard when blank was fired their was one found shy. Just for a thought.

 

[Saddletramp]

Don't trial but I introduce my dogs to the gun slowly( meaning I don't just take them and go crazy shooting at every rabbit) I hunt with a 22 most the time ,will fire a round or two into the ground while dogs are running when they come close to me . When I do take a shotgun I try to make one shot count first few times out with young dogs ,show them rabbit then praise them they learn that they've done their job. I never go with beaters and bangers, I'm out there to here the dogs not fill the freezer! Gun shyness is a fault but I can tolerate with a really nice running hound,if wanting to kill can leave it at home!

 

[Greenhaw]

Hunt, I think we were surprised when that happened. The dogs were running. Shot fired and it was gone. Don't know?

 

[Circle4p]

Man that’s one I can’t hardly stand

 

[Spini Boys]

My hounds are exposed to shooting all their life. We have a trap range about 25 yards behind the kennels, we have a rifle range about 50 yards in front of the kennels. There is shooting here year round. Hounds just lay on their benches not a care in the world.
in all my years, I have only seen one gun shy dog and it was on a hunt. That dog took off like a rocket. He like to never get it back.

 

[MackC]

This subject don't show up to often at trials, it did this weekend at music city. I was wondering do any of y'all test derbies while training? I was in quarantine due to exposure this week so could not be at the trial as planned, I heard when blank was fired their was one found shy. Just for a thought.

I do carry a blank pistol and shoot over my derbies before taking them to a trial or hunting. I'm curious as to which class at Music City had the gunshy dog?

 

[Hippy]

I have only had One that was Gun Shy--she was the rare "Blue" color great hunt good line control never new she was in the kennel BUTT gun shy--If she was far enough away from the shot fine--

Took a co-worker with me that was a big hunter -I never though to tell him NOT 2 JUMP shoot the Rabbit -he did found her at the truck I never hunted her after that
She was a really good pup trainer

Jim

 

[5 Solas]

I am glad to hear the gunshyness test was taken seriously at this trial. In my experience, we usually end up firing a squeaky little blank more than 200 yards from the dogs, aimed away from them while they are running away from the judges and marshal. Per the rules, the hounds must be hot on game. It also says that the gunfire must be from a normal range from the hounds.

As a hunter (even with my molasses slow cold trailing slothhounds...) my dogs are usually coming towards me when a shot is fired, and they are not terribly far behind the rabbit from a distance standpoint. With some of the hounds we see in the trials these days, the hounds are really pressuring the rabbit, and are up close to it. In my opinion, if a dog is going to run that "speed" (that close to the rabbit), it better be able to handle gunfire that close to it. Otherwise, you don't have a gundog that you can hunt with.

After all, this is the United (etc) Beagle GUNdog Federation, or we are running GUNdog Brace...

 

[mitch huguet]

AKC Field Trials..... do not test for gushiness at their.....HUNTING TESTS....Field Trials.

What I mean is AKC Field Trials.... DO NOT TEST..... LIKE THEY FLY...... they go through the motions. Lip Service.

Here is exactly what I mean.

You don't hunt with a .32 cal. blank gun...Cap Pistol...... do you???....So..... AKC Field Trials do not...... TEST LIKE THEY FLY....Get it?

You use a Shot Gun in the Field..... in the real world.... on a..... REAL HUNT..... NOT..... a Cap Gun...HUGE.... difference!

 

[mitch huguet]

Field trials are Good, Fun and Exciting they test for some very important things in a dog.

Hunting in the field is very fun and exciting too..... it tests for everything in a dog.

When practiced in tandem they work very well together and offer lots of enjoyment.

Before you buy any dogs you want to hunt with it is very important to....Do our own test.

Field Trails of Today have restrictions that do not allow it's participance to perform the best test possible for our hounds.

Now this looks much better...

 

[W.cropp]

My hounds are exposed to shooting all their life. We have a trap range about 25 yards behind the kennels, we have a rifle range about 50 yards in front of the kennels. There is shooting here year round. Hounds just lay on their benches not a care in the world.
in all my years, I have only seen one gun shy dog and it was on a hunt. That dog took off like a rocket. He like to never get it back.

How are you doing Spini? I’m with you all my neighbors have shooting ranges around me 50-25 yards away a dog has no choice but to get gun trained. I like it because it gets my puppies early introduction to gun shots.
afar as field trial gunning only been to one stayed all day down to the winner’s pack(Surprised to see that little gun)

 

[Grizzly creek beagles]

I had a male years ago that I’d owned for a couple years and had killed several rabbit’s over him that became gunshy after we had some new neighbors move in next door to us. We were out of town for the 4th of July that year they were shooting off homemade fireworks (1/2 sticks) 25 yards from my kennel all week long. Did I mention I hate living in town.

 

[Hunt like a dog]

I do carry a blank pistol and shoot over my derbies before taking them to a trial or hunting. I'm curious as to which class at Music City had the gunshy dog?

I don't know I had a friend in the trial told me about it lucky the dog didn't disappear

 

[JMS Ky Kennels]

My brother bought a female hound from a guy a few weeks ago. She is 4 years old. We took her out with my pack two weekends ago. When the shots where fired she hightailed it the further the faster. It was a mess trying to get her back. She jumped a rabbit and went right back to her old self. Needless to say 8 hours later and a box of shells between the 4 of us she had gotten pretty used to it. Still not gun broke but she was better. We contacted the man who sold her said she had never been gunned over. ( my brother should have asked that question before buying her!) lol

 

[Hippy]

Have a friend that bought a dog several years bac and returned it because it was gun shy the owner took it bac and made a FC out of him .

Jim

 

[5 Solas]

My brother bought a female hound from a guy a few weeks ago. She is 4 years old. We took her out with my pack two weekends ago. When the shots where fired she hightailed it the further the faster. It was a mess trying to get her back. She jumped a rabbit and went right back to her old self. Needless to say 8 hours later and a box of shells between the 4 of us she had gotten pretty used to it. Still not gun broke but she was better. We contacted the man who sold her said she had never been gunned over. ( my brother should have asked that question before buying her!) lol

I bought a shy dog off of a buddy earlier this year. Human shy, not necessarily gunshy. I sighted in my muzzleloader not far from their kennel and she was fine. Then I fired a 20g while I was running her on a lunch break one day. She did a backflip when it went off, but went right back to hunting. I say all this because ANY TIME you buy a dog, you gotta shoot around it before the first time you take it hunting. You don't want to find out it is gunshy when you are out on a hunt... SOunds like it worked out okay for you guys though! I am sure after this season, that dog will love the gun once she correlates it to rabbit scent!

 

[MackC]

AKC Field Trials..... do not test for gushiness at their.....HUNTING TESTS....Field Trials.

What I mean is AKC Field Trials.... DO NOT TEST..... LIKE THEY FLY...... they go through the motions. Lip Service.

Here is exactly what I mean.

You don't hunt with a .32 cal. blank gun...Cap Pistol...... do you???....So..... AKC Field Trials do not...... TEST LIKE THEY FLY....Get it?

You use a Shot Gun in the Field..... in the real world.... on a..... REAL HUNT..... NOT..... a Cap Gun...HUGE.... difference!

Mitch, the 32 caliber blank gun my club uses is very similar in sound to the 20 gauge shotgun I hunt with. I have a couple of 12 gauges but seldom use them rabbit hunting, messes up too much of the meat. Gunshyness is not a common fault of today's SPO trial dogs. I see 1-2 a season at the trials. Today's Fld Trial dogs have to be pretty much Bomb Proof as they have to deal with strangers hollering while they are trying to hunt, people swinging sticks in the brush, the gallery standing on the rabbit track while the dogs are trying figure it out, Judges running up their back, horses almost stomping on them, motored side by sides running past. Field trial dogs have shortcomings but as a rule gunshyness is not one of them.

 

[Greenhaw]

Mack, I am pretty sure it was big females. They ran across in front of the club house.

 

[mitch huguet]

Good to hear it MackC…..Great job!

 

[Foxxy]

I had a gun shy female a friend gave me because of her shyness. Took her out shot a rabbit with my 22 she quit running put her back into the dog box.
Came home found a metal pipe and a old frying pan. Put her food in her dish stepped back 20 feet and started pounding on the frying pan. She picked up her head, I picked up her feed she ate nothing that night, it was Saturday. Did the same thing on Sunday and till Friday, one week no feed . Saturday fed her started pounding on the frying pan walked closer and pounded the pan right next to her. Didn’t care about the noise wanted the food she was hungry. Took her out Sunday had 22’s and shotgun shot a couple rabbits, she did not shy once from the sound. Never had a problem after that. I have done this to a couple other dogs, one didn’t eat for 10 days eleventh day finally gave in to the sound.
They can be broke from shyness of the gun.