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A lot of times with Beagles are like a lot of other "Sports" it is the Flavor of the month-- my preference is HUNT HUNT and then HUNT--With the lack of Rabbits in my area some days U R more likely to find Bigfoot,Scooby Do or a Unicorn than a rabbit.
Being from Western MD--the wrong end of the state- I no longer kill the few rabbits we jump I drive 90 +miles one way to run my dogs the nearest club to keep the young dogs sharp

That being said the BEST jump dogs I have seen in the last 20 years are Either Stubby bred or Black Creek seen some better than average Buckshot bred Bear bred dogs stay "Busy" just not what I call jump dogs

==As far as line control it is hard to beat anything from Cadillac Jack bred dogs.Bear has good line control just no FOOT

I know that most of you can jump more Rabbits in a day of hunting than I do in a month or more--not knocking anyone's dogs I would luv to have U hunt where I do .
When I see Spini Boys post the land that they hunt I would Die for a place like that

When U run dogs for 3-4 hours and NEVER see a rabbit it is tough especially on young dogs- when I was younger we had rabbits fox,coyotes Hawks,Owls have really hurt out population NO ONE traps anymore as the pelts are not worth the effort.

Sorry to ramble

Jim
 

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What's a good bloodline for medium speed, awesome line control, tight mouth but not silent? Not afraid to hit the brush all day.
Buckshot is a good line. I don't run them because I like big, but my buddy does and they fit the bill.
I like hounds that go back to Shorts Pro, Skullfork.
Modern lines, the Yellow Rock Grady hounds are good hounds that fit your description.
Lots of others out there.
You want big or little?
 

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I personally wouldn’t classify Buckshot stuff anywhere near being tight mouthed. I know there are good ones out there that have done well and this is 100% anecdotal but all I’ve seen will cold trail, ghost trail, bark all over in a check, or stand and blow a hole in the ground over one spot behind the rest of the pack. Again, my very limited experience with the ten or so I’ve either seen or owned myself.
 

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Complex, just goes to show the variation in bloodlines, not doubting what you have seen, I have some Buckshot breed hounds and have seen others run and they have none of the traits that you have witnessed, but have seen those traits in some Bear bred dogs. I have seen Buckshot’s that can be a little growly around other males Like has been said there are good and bad in all bloodlines for sure. Best check them out till you find what suits you, truly one mans trash can be another treasure
 

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Buckshot is a good line. I don't run them because I like big, but my buddy does and they fit the bill.
I like hounds that go back to Shorts Pro, Skullfork.
Modern lines, the Yellow Rock Grady hounds are good hounds that fit your description.
Lots of others out there.
You want big or little?
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I'm guessing it would be helpful for me to go to a AKC field trial and watch dogs run. My male is from beagle on fire and I really like him, if anyone is familiar with that guy. Wanting some AKC registered dogs though and his aren't registered.
 

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A lot of times with Beagles are like a lot of other "Sports" it is the Flavor of the month-- my preference is HUNT HUNT and then HUNT--With the lack of Rabbits in my area some days U R more likely to find Bigfoot,Scooby Do or a Unicorn than a rabbit.
Being from Western MD--the wrong end of the state- I no longer kill the few rabbits we jump I drive 90 +miles one way to run my dogs the nearest club to keep the young dogs sharp

That being said the BEST jump dogs I have seen in the last 20 years are Either Stubby bred or Black Creek seen some better than average Buckshot bred Bear bred dogs stay "Busy" just not what I call jump dogs

==As far as line control it is hard to beat anything from Cadillac Jack bred dogs.Bear has good line control just no FOOT

I know that most of you can jump more Rabbits in a day of hunting than I do in a month or more--not knocking anyone's dogs I would luv to have U hunt where I do .
When I see Spini Boys post the land that they hunt I would Die for a place like that

When U run dogs for 3-4 hours and NEVER see a rabbit it is tough especially on young dogs- when I was younger we had rabbits fox,coyotes Hawks,Owls have really hurt out population NO ONE traps anymore as the pelts are not worth the effort.

Sorry to ramble

Jim
What do you mean by "no foot"?
 

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There is good and bad in all lines. It’s whatever works for you. Otis, Skullfork, Stubby, Branko, Indian Hills, on and on. It’s just what you like. As Grizz said come up to the Hunt in January and you will see all flavors. This will give you the different prospectives of different lines.
 

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Just wanted to say I enjoyed Hippy’s post. It’s not quite that bad where I live, but nearly is. I hunted 14 hounds today for an hour and a half and didn’t jump a rabbit. Hounds hunted their tails off in good rabbit cover, and we covered a lot of ground. I got wet from the snow and tired, so I picked them up and went home. Last time out, hounds jumped 12 rabbits in 5 hours, at a different place. I think we all should place a high priority on search “jump dogs” in every cross we make. Try to start with a line that has it already. Some lines better than others.
 

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I'm guessing it would be helpful for me to go to a AKC field trial and watch dogs run. My male is from beagle on fire and I really like him, if anyone is familiar with that guy. Wanting some AKC registered dogs though and his aren't registered.
You will not find anything at an AKC field trial to run with David's dogs. I not saying that is good or bad. I bought 2 from him a 1½ ago and all his dogs I seen are probably closer to 7 or 8 on speed. From what I've seen most AKC trial dogs are 5 or 6. The person I sold my too said they consistently run over 6 mph on his alpha 100. This is just what I seen.
 

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Agree good and bad in all lines, better to take your time and look at several to find one that fits your liking within some of the different lines.
Makes a big Difference in most blood lines to know which ones or out of that type of the right blood ..How much of that better line is in your hounds of the right ones up close and who they come from ..AS said they are a lot of varieties out there.That been saying there are a good man and great ones in all.So just because you see good or bad ones to out of a variety of hounds.If you find a braid you like doesn’t mean you’re going to get what you want. If you find a breed or crosses you like you need to do the research on their background That are out of how much is in the bloodline who they came from and what they have been producing.Damn girl why is them run or hunt with them before you purchase
 

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Makes a big Difference in most blood lines to know which ones or out of that type of the right blood ..How much of that better line is in your hounds of the right ones up close and who they come from ..AS said they are a lot of varieties out there.That been saying there are a good man and great ones in all.So just because you see good or bad ones to out of a variety of hounds.If you find a braid you like doesn’t mean you’re going to get what you want. If you find a breed or crosses you like you need to do the research on their background That are out of how much is in the bloodline who they came from and what they have been producing.Damn girl why is them run or hunt with them before you purchase..
 
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