Not really, but i am so sick an tired of these dog not getting it done. i dont know what happen to them. kate started at 4 months on her own solo all i did was let her see a rabbit and it was on. doc also was circleing at 5 months. i know , i know i thought the guy was full of sh!t myself. but i went an seen it with my own eyes. then i said here's your money. back to the dogs i had kate down in Neelyville for a about a month back in september she could hammer one by her self 6 months old. doc is 1.5 yrs. old. they had been doing a good job. my shift at work changed in march so i can only run on saturdays. but figerd that would at least keep them in the game. the last 3 times out they have not done squat. they half ass hunt aROUND open , like one is going to get up then notda. today they jumped 2 . only half circles i know there were moer rabbits in that area than 2. the only thing saveing them. is the ol'mans broke dogs are not doing any better. so someone tell me what is going on. i have about had it.