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When running in a trial & the judge(s) tell you pick up your dog how do y'all catch them off the rabbit?

I know just trying to catch mine off one when hunting can be a pain, especially in thick cover. I try not to use the shock collars when they are running rabbits to make them stop so I can catch them.
 

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You can read through the following info and get some incite as to what is supposed to be going on if you are at a Field Trial.

Notice that SHALL word throughout...You should note that at some field trials.....You Will..... hear..... and...... see...….all kinds...... of excuses as to why the rules are not being clearly and accurately followed.

When at an SPO trial and in doubt.... ask one of the Two Marshals who are taking instruction from the judges so the judges are free to follow and inspect hound performance. This greatly helps to eliminate confusion, problems and mistakes and also ensures the Smooth and Fair running of the Field Trial for all involved.

Hope this helps.

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The Field Trial Committee shall appoint a Marshal or Marshals to carry out the orders of the Judges. Marshals may advise Judges but must carry out the instructions of the Judges, whose decision is final. At a trial run in Large Packs, no person shall act as Marshal for a class in which he has a hound entered; and at a trial run in Small Packs, no person shall act as Roving Marshal for a pack in which he has a hound entered.


Marshals shall be identified by badges or arm bands carrying the designation “Marshal.”


At a field trial run in Small Packs there shall be two Marshals.


One Marshal shall guide and supervise the gallery
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The other Marshal, known as the Roving Marshal, shall assist the Judges and supervise the handlers


All persons following the hounds shall be subject to the direction of the Marshal and/or the Judges at all times


When game is raised or the hounds are away on the trail, the gallery shall stand fast or change position only as instructed by the Judges or the Marshal.


Owners and handlers must keep themselves informed as to the running order and progress of the judging, and must be ready within hailing distance when their hounds are called by the Marshal on instructions from the Judges.


Handlers must keep themselves informed as to the running order and progress of the judging, and must be ready within hailing distance when their pack is called by the Marshal on the instruction of the judges.

Not until all the hounds have settled down in full pursuit of game and they can be observed by one or both Judges, shall the Judges ask the Marshal to fire a single blank cartridge from within normal gunshot range of the pack.


The Judges may request that the Marshal fire additional blank cartridges under the same conditions above until they are satisfied that the pack is free from gunshy hounds.
 

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Im an expert on picking up dogs at a trial😁.
You just get in there and grab em, try not to screw up the race, dont be yelling at your dog, that will mess up the other ones still down. BTW I dont do it anymore, not fast enough.
Also, if, like me, you are no longer physically able to really do it. Let them know ahead of time and folks will help you.
not all trials have field marshals, if they do, problem solved.
 

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Thanks for the info fellars!

I have one dog that was taught down when you want to catch him & he will squat or sit .I haven't tried it while he was on a rabbit. I use it after a run when I want to catch him up & head home. I'm teaching my pup to do the same while he is running loose in the yard & it seems to be working so far.
 

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The best way to catch your hound is to teach them to down. So when you are ready to catch them just holler down and they should lay down with that command. You can teach them by hollering down and then use your training collar to help them understand the command.
Dont do it at a field trial if they tell you to pick up your hound and the rest of the cast is still running.
 

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What Mitch wrote is the way it should be done, Field Marshall will yell pick up red collar, he or she will try to catch it while the dogs are running a rabbit, you as the handler should try and sneak in and have your dog Downed to be caught. A check is/might be the best time to catch your dog.
You are not allowed to have shock collar during trials ,but a tracking collar can be used.

I had a nice young Derby Patch female that was doing really well in the second series, the Marshall called to pick up 2 dogs, (not mine) the Marshall ran up to catch one of the dogs at a check and ran in and stepped on my dog. She shied and came to me, would not go with pack because of what happened.
I was pissed, being a young dog she never really got over it, she was semi-timid and that situation ended her trialing. Did well hunting though. JMHO
 

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You can read through the following info and get some incite as to what is supposed to be going on if you are at a Field Trial.

Notice that SHALL word throughout...You should note that at some field trials.....You Will..... hear..... and...... see...….all kinds...... of excuses as to why the rules are not being clearly and accurately followed.

When at an SPO trial and in doubt.... ask one of the Two Marshals who are taking instruction from the judges so the judges are free to follow and inspect hound performance. This greatly helps to eliminate confusion, problems and mistakes and also ensures the Smooth and Fair running of the Field Trial for all involved.

Hope this helps.

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The Field Trial Committee shall appoint a Marshal or Marshals to carry out the orders of the Judges. Marshals may advise Judges but must carry out the instructions of the Judges, whose decision is final. At a trial run in Large Packs, no person shall act as Marshal for a class in which he has a hound entered; and at a trial run in Small Packs, no person shall act as Roving Marshal for a pack in which he has a hound entered.


Marshals shall be identified by badges or arm bands carrying the designation “Marshal.”


At a field trial run in Small Packs there shall be two Marshals.


One Marshal shall guide and supervise the gallery
.


The other Marshal, known as the Roving Marshal, shall assist the Judges and supervise the handlers


All persons following the hounds shall be subject to the direction of the Marshal and/or the Judges at all times


When game is raised or the hounds are away on the trail, the gallery shall stand fast or change position only as instructed by the Judges or the Marshal.


Owners and handlers must keep themselves informed as to the running order and progress of the judging, and must be ready within hailing distance when their hounds are called by the Marshal on instructions from the Judges.


Handlers must keep themselves informed as to the running order and progress of the judging, and must be ready within hailing distance when their pack is called by the Marshal on the instruction of the judges.

Not until all the hounds have settled down in full pursuit of game and they can be observed by one or both Judges, shall the Judges ask the Marshal to fire a single blank cartridge from within normal gunshot range of the pack.


The Judges may request that the Marshal fire additional blank cartridges under the same conditions above until they are satisfied that the pack is free from gunshy hounds.

The above rules were well thought out and worked well when we had few clubs and trials. Now that there are so many clubs the memberships are low and it's hard to find enough judges and marshalls to carry out a trial the way it's supposed to be. The rules haven't changed but the actual practice has. I'm not going to complaint too much because I think more people are involved now, it's just run different. There are different obstacles now to finish a Fld Champion but if you've ever finished one you know how hard it still is. I've judged quite a few AKC SPO trials this year and the Quality of dogs I've seen is pretty dang good.
 

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When running in a trial & the judge(s) tell you pick up your dog how do y'all catch them off the rabbit?

I know just trying to catch mine off one when hunting can be a pain, especially in thick cover. I try not to use the shock collars when they are running rabbits to make them stop so I can catch them.
If you have to catch your own dog just do the best you can with out disrupting the race. No hollering for sure. I do it plenty, I either hook around and catch him as he's going by or pick him up at a check.
 

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I had a nice young Derby Patch female that was doing really well in the second series, the Marshall called to pick up 2 dogs, (not mine) the Marshall ran up to catch one of the dogs at a check and ran in and stepped on my dog. She shied and came to me, would not go with pack because of what happened.
I was pissed, being a young dog she never really got over it, she was a semi-timid and that situation ended her trialing. Did well hunting though. JMHO
Had the same thing happen only it was on the jump. So as all the hounds were harking in a judge running to catch up, stepped on my hound who was also headed to hark in. It was tall grass and an accident, he apologized profusely. I am not a real competitor at trials so no big deal. But she was never the same around folks after that.
 

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I owned a nice male a few years back that should have been a FC. He would hunt and run with anyone and pack up. His problem was at field trials. Once he saw that crown of people and all of those trucks then everything changed. I am told that he was trialing well and at a trial he was in the pack ran a rabbit into the ground. The handlers all jumped in to catch their dogs and one of them jumped on to this dog. It hurt him pretty bad and he would never trial again. This dog was a well bred dog out of Keith Loudermilk's kennel. I have found that the field marshall is the best one to pick up a dog. He is right there with the pack and gets the first message from the judges.
 

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The AKC has judging seminars to educate and reinforce the rules of judging field trials. The rules are made to provide a quality of righteous field trials based on the rules. Every time we have a field trial as the President of our club I stress the need to abide by the rules that are established. You may never know when an AKC representative will be there to evaluate your trial.

I agree with Mack, it is very hard to get Judges and Marshals let alone cooks for the kitchens. The AKC may need to look at the situation and reevaluate how the process might need to be changed. It might not be nation wide but it occurs in different parts of the trials throughout the USA. There needs to be a continuance of younger individuals joining our Beagle Family.JMHO
 
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