I was trying to remember what type of rub you could use. I had used something before but can't remember what. ThanksI cut her food back two to three days before I take the pups off. Take the pups off and 24 hrs. later if she's full of milk I'll put the pups in for a couple hours. Take the pups out repeat the next day if you need to? You usually won't. Get a bottle of Camphor Spirits (drugstore) lay the gyp on her back and rub it on her bag. Works best if you can do it twice a day for two or three days, but once a day for 2 or three days will work too. Needless to say don't let the pups back on her after you start the Camphor. Most gyps will be ready to run again in about 10 days and pull up nice and tight!