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Just wondering how far /close do you like your pack from you when working your rabbit grounds? I am a little I guess you could say "old school" just like my deer dogs I like to get in the brush with them and walk with them just wondering how some of you like to work your pack
 

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My cover is thick , I will walk them to where I want them to hunt and then I try to stay within a 100 yards of them . If they start getting further I walk closer . In the summer I just turn them out and stay on the porch and listen . They usually jump near the house . I am worried now about coyotes , so I am trying to stay closer . One of my dogs won’t hunt far from me unless he jumps .
 

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I try to stay fairly close so I can see what they are doing especially when I’m running young dogs. My older dogs check in with me pretty good so I don’t worry about them when I run by theirselves. They know the drill. I also know each ones bark and can distinguish what’s going on. It also depends on if I’m hunting or just pleasure running. I have like Marshall just set on the porch and let them run.
 

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You may find that you will get a wide variety of responses on this topic. I like my dogs to hunt hard , but usually within 50 -75 yards or so of me, I move a good bit while hunting. Some of the public land clear cuts I’m on the rabbits along the roads and easy walking can get hunted really hard. Sometimes gotta make a little trip in the brush with them.
If we are at our cabin I turn them loose and it’s 80-100 yards for them to just get out of the pasture. They will work all over that ground. Maybe 400-500 yards out. Just looking for the next rabbit. But if I show up around them it’s back to hunting with me.
 

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When running I like mine to stay within a 100 yards. Now when they are pounding the ground hard on ole mister bunny they may reach out to 250 300 plus before they turn. Thank to my alpha 100 I let them stroke.
LOL yea that's where I get nervous, with me just being an apprentice with my first pack when I see them on my alpha around 300-350yds rolling and haven't made a turn I start to think they are on junk
 

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LOL yea that's where I get nervous, with me just being an apprentice with my first pack when I see them on my alpha around 300-350yds rolling and haven't made a turn I start to think they are on junk
Gotta trust em until they give you reason not to but man that is tough. I was where you were a few years back. Few more years and that isn’t a consistent thought but I think all of us are thinking in the back of our minds “rabbit vs trash” all the time. I have gotten to the point many times to trust them and then I add a pup and you can’t trust them anymore. Hahah
 

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I am not blessed to own one of those tracking systems. I run bells on my dogs, poor man's GPS!!!! I have been owning my own Beagles since I was 10 years old. Living on a 400 acre farm we had two dogs running loose on their own all the time. Two came in two more were released. I went out with my dogs every chance I could and thought them to handle. Although they hunted on their own, they also handled when a person was with them. They handled better then any dog I own today. They hunted within the sound of my voice, usually within my site if the cover wasn't to thick. I could get them to hunt every piece of cover I wanted by pointing where I wanted them to hunt, and they aimed to please. I rarely entered cover, these dogs were true searchers. Some were smarter searchers then others and jumped more rabbits, although the others hunted as hard. I thought them to hunt the cover I wanted by throwing a stick, clump of dirt, anything I could throw into the cover. They raced into the cover in search of whatever I threw in. They just loved to hunt.
My dogs today are a little different. It seems that most of todays dogs just don't have the hunt that the dogs of the old days. Don't get me wrong, some have decent hunt, but it seems running the line has been bred in them more then the desire to search. I try to teach my dogs to search. I do have to enter the cover at times, but I work them slow. I want my dogs searching in front of me. I have seen at trials handlers getting in the cover going really fast and beating brush. Why, in the SPO trials the dogs are suppose to be judged on hunt. I understand when their are big classes at some trials the quicker a rabbit is jumped the faster the trial progresses. Most clubs today have enough rabbits to handle pretty large classes so no reason to rush the dogs.
I still want my dogs to search in front of me, I don't want healers behind me. If they are within the distance that I can hear their bells I am ok. I know that they are within the sound of my voice then. I want them to hunt individually but not to spread out that they do not hear the packmates once a jump. If they are not within the sound of my voice, I cannot handle them. It causes trouble in a Field Trial for this old man. If I don't know where my dog is and the dog is away from the others and cannot hark in to the pack quickly, how and where does this old man go to try to get his dog to the pack???? I gave away a really nice one last year to a young man that was a true rabbit dog. Her problem was what I described above. When cast she just had no since of distance from her handler. She just kept hunting until she jumped. Sometimes on totally different properties. I could handle her with an ecollar on her, but without no clue where she was going to turn up. At a Field Trial no ECollars allowed in my area.

WOW!!! That's a lot of babbling by this old man just to say, I like them within the sound of my voice!!!! when searching for one. Once the rabbit is up they better run him where ever he goes, sometimes them going out of hearing. Once they get out of hearing then you hear them coming back burning up that rabbit, what a rush that is!!!!

Judges just picked me up for Babbling !!!!
 
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