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Has anybody bred to either of these two studs?
-Rapid Run Big Easy B
-Rapid Run Big Moe D


If so, what did he put in your pups? How is their hunt, nose, power, line control, conformation.
Does one of them throw more power and the other more flow, etc?



Moe D is Easy B's son. I have attached Moe's pedigree so you can see both.

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I know a lot of people's next questions are "Are you looking to add foot or are you looking to add line control?" I don't know yet as the bitch I would take to him is not ready yet, I am just kinda planning for the future. I am trying to come up with some options based on what she ends up showing that she needs. It is too early to tell what she is going to lack.

Just thought I'd poll the collective and get your all's experiences.

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I dont reckon I'm qualified to answer this as I haven't bred to them but I owned one out of Easy B that I didn't care for. Good dog during the race but no real hunt and didn't handle well for me. Keep in mind 1 dog I owned doesn't give any type of overall idea of what that dog produces though. You probably wouldn't go wrong with either if you have a quality female. Another option I would consider would be Blue Boogie who(and someone correct me if I'm wrong)is out of Moe D. I'm no expert though and someone probably has more direct knowledge with the above dogs than me. Good luck with your litter, keep us updated.
 

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I bred to Moe D and she had 10,I kept 5. Three of the 5 started real quick, other 2 took couple more days. I've seen 2 run and they seem to have some foot especially the male.
I haven't seen the other 3 yet cause they are still in starting pen. I should know within a next week or so on the other 3. They are all real bold / friendly.
 

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Thanks guys. I saw that Boogie dog in Hounds and Hunting. A lot of Sawyer's stuff is quite a bit steppier than what I have. I am satisfied with the nose and hunt that I have in my kennel, but I have one big female derby that is going to be due for an outcross. And I am going to need a little more foot if I want to start winning trials in my area, that's just the bottom line lol. I don't want to speed up so much that they are rougher than I am confortable with, however. I have been admiring the Moe D dog in Hounds and Hunting... great conformation and his accomplishments speak for himself. I just fear he may throw a little too much power and foot than I want. His whole bottom side is a major outcross for me, so I am just afraid it is too far out. Easy B caught my eye because he threw Moe D, and he would be up closer to what I have in my blood now. I am wondering if he would throw a little better line control than Moe, but that is based just on his name. If I'm not mistaken, both of these dogs have wins at my home club.

At the end of the day, when my derby has proved herself and is ready to breed (if she ever is...) then (if I make the decision to cross out to one of these dogs), I will probably call Sawyer and get his advice on the two. I thought I would run it by some of you all on here too. The more input the merrier, and I want to hear from some guys that hunt and expect their dogs to, instead of just trialing.

Keep the experiences coming guys!

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Not a long video and not sure it will work if you don't have FB but you can see boogie soloing here which looks impressive to me. Videos are just videos though think of them what you will.
Yeah I don't have FB but I have seen that video. Very impressive. He oversteps a little here and there but really recovers it quick. A very cool looking hound too! Especially the old hound-looking face!
 

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I dont reckon I'm qualified to answer this as I haven't bred to them but I owned one out of Easy B that I didn't care for. Good dog during the race but no real hunt and didn't handle well for me. Keep in mind 1 dog I owned doesn't give any type of overall idea of what that dog produces though. You probably wouldn't go wrong with either if you have a quality female. Another option I would consider would be Blue Boogie who(and someone correct me if I'm wrong)is out of Moe D. I'm no expert though and someone probably has more direct knowledge with the above dogs than me. Good luck with your litter, keep us updated.
I believe boggie out of buckshot to very good looking hound .. I have a male out of Cowboy Casanova for stud on this site a long with several more blood lines.. Good luck his hounds and record specks for there self. Lot of great hounds time and experience breeding and producing Mr sayers..
 

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Thanks guys. I saw that Boogie dog in Hounds and Hunting. A lot of Sawyer's stuff is quite a bit steppier than what I have. I am satisfied with the nose and hunt that I have in my kennel, but I have one big female derby that is going to be due for an outcross. And I am going to need a little more foot if I want to start winning trials in my area, that's just the bottom line lol. I don't want to speed up so much that they are rougher than I am confortable with, however. I have been admiring the Moe D dog in Hounds and Hunting... great conformation and his accomplishments speak for himself. I just fear he may throw a little too much power and foot than I want. His whole bottom side is a major outcross for me, so I am just afraid it is too far out. Easy B caught my eye because he threw Moe D, and he would be up closer to what I have in my blood now. I am wondering if he would throw a little better line control than Moe, but that is based just on his name. If I'm not mistaken, both of these dogs have wins at my home club.

At the end of the day, when my derby has proved herself and is ready to breed (if she ever is...) then (if I make the decision to cross out to one of these dogs), I will probably call Sawyer and get his advice on the two. I thought I would run it by some of you all on here too. The more input the merrier, and I want to hear from some guys that hunt and expect their dogs to, instead of just trialing.

Keep the experiences coming guys!

Thanks again
I have judged Mo D. Great dog. I've seen seen females out of Big Easy B from a friend. Also great dogs. If you have a good female chances are you'll get some good ones. As far as the foot (speed) goes. Just remember, dogs being trialed are sharper, quicker, faster, than normal due to their diet and training. It has been my experience that most of the pups from these super dogs are not as powerful as the sire. Most are medium speed pleasure type dogs.
 

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Thanks guys. I saw that Boogie dog in Hounds and Hunting. A lot of Sawyer's stuff is quite a bit steppier than what I have. I am satisfied with the nose and hunt that I have in my kennel, but I have one big female derby that is going to be due for an outcross. And I am going to need a little more foot if I want to start winning trials in my area, that's just the bottom line lol. I don't want to speed up so much that they are rougher than I am confortable with, however. I have been admiring the Moe D dog in Hounds and Hunting... great conformation and his accomplishments speak for himself. I just fear he may throw a little too much power and foot than I want. His whole bottom side is a major outcross for me, so I am just afraid it is too far out. Easy B caught my eye because he threw Moe D, and he would be up closer to what I have in my blood now. I am wondering if he would throw a little better line control than Moe, but that is based just on his name. If I'm not mistaken, both of these dogs have wins at my home club.

At the end of the day, when my derby has proved herself and is ready to breed (if she ever is...) then (if I make the decision to cross out to one of these dogs), I will probably call Sawyer and get his advice on the two. I thought I would run it by some of you all on here too. The more input the merrier, and I want to hear from some guys that hunt and expect their dogs to, instead of just trialing.

Keep the experiences coming guys!

Thanks again
 

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I have a Moe D male about 18 months. He’s on the soft side but friendly, listens well and is good in the kennel. Hunts ok in the pen in light cover not so much in the thick stuff. Friends that I run with that trial gundog brace and know more than me think he’s too ruff. Solo him about 5 days a week and gets his rabbit around. he has some speed.
 

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I have a male out of big easy b. He is the best track dog I might have ever owned, true to his word in every way.
but..........if you wait on him to jump a rabbit, well now you might just starve.
I have a female out of my male, crossed with buckshot blood and she hunts good, and pretty good on track
 

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Thanks guys. I saw that Boogie dog in Hounds and Hunting. A lot of Sawyer's stuff is quite a bit steppier than what I have. I am satisfied with the nose and hunt that I have in my kennel, but I have one big female derby that is going to be due for an outcross. And I am going to need a little more foot if I want to start winning trials in my area, that's just the bottom line lol. I don't want to speed up so much that they are rougher than I am confortable with, however. I have been admiring the Moe D dog in Hounds and Hunting... great conformation and his accomplishments speak for himself. I just fear he may throw a little too much power and foot than I want. His whole bottom side is a major outcross for me, so I am just afraid it is too far out. Easy B caught my eye because he threw Moe D, and he would be up closer to what I have in my blood now. I am wondering if he would throw a little better line control than Moe, but that is based just on his name. If I'm not mistaken, both of these dogs have wins at my home club.

At the end of the day, when my derby has proved herself and is ready to breed (if she ever is...) then (if I make the decision to cross out to one of these dogs), I will probably call Sawyer and get his advice on the two. I thought I would run it by some of you all on here too. The more input the merrier, and I want to hear from some guys that hunt and expect their dogs to, instead of just trialing.

Keep the experiences coming guys!

Thanks again
That bottom side is a touch faster not much.i would say that would be a good cross to try and add a little foot. little nip otis was footy but not branko footy from what my dad and papaw tell me. i actually cross my dogs with a shorts pro/ little nip dam to slow my pups down my males are head bangers they want the front and can hold it if they over run a track they are usually fast enough to snap back and get the check before something else can.
 
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