[bcline73]

I’ve got a 7 month old bitch that can jump and run a rabbit very well for her age but I can already notice that she has plenty of extra mouth in a check and before the rabbit is jump. Has anyone had any luck cleaning up a dog with these habbits?

 

[5 Solas]

Follow her into the check and holler when she starts that up. I would be careful shocking her just yet if she is that young. She may have a ton of nose if she is opening up early. She just needs to learn not to cold trail like that. Brains might come with age.

Also you may consider a lower energy food. I know some guys switched to a 30/20 and got a ton of extra mouth. It puts fire in the dog but can get them to use a little more mouth.

 

[bcline73]

Follow her into the check and holler when she starts that up. I would be careful shocking her just yet if she is that young. She may have a ton of nose if she is opening up early. She just needs to learn not to cold trail like that. Brains might come with age.

Also you may consider a lower energy food. I know some guys switched to a 30/20 and got a ton of extra mouth. It puts fire in the dog but can get them to use a little more mouth.

I’m going to try to solo and brace her as much as I can so I can do like you said and attempt to shut her up as soon as she starts throwing mouth in a check, thanks

 

[5 Solas]

Keep us informed! Other people might have some success in the past. I am just pretty careful to ever hit the voltage with a derby when they are on a rabbit (even if they are making mistakes on it)

 

[smiley17]

Honestly I have never had any success getting one out of that. They just leave my house.

 

[Beagler282]

When they mouthy they are just mouthy. I can give a tight lip dog more mouth but I can't calm an extra mouth down.

 

[bcline73]

I’m the same way, I hate shocking a dog on a rabbit unless it’s to save them from going across a road or something....I’ll see if she changes a bit with maturity

 

[Hoosierhunter]

I’m with smiley, I have seen some get better with age but I have never seen one completely stop. Let’s remember you have some that cold trail a little and then some that do it for a while before the rabbit is up. The severity of it means a lot with a pup that age. In the check is something that prolly won’t change either at least in my experience. I am not a trial guy so I can deal with a little of cold trailing but can’t deal with extra in a check that leads to rabbits getting away! JMO hope she works out.

 

[5 Solas]

Absolutely, I am with Hoosier on this one. Starting up early doesn't necessarily blow the race up. Extra mouth in a check sure can though. Your dogs in your pack that run with this hound a lot may learn when to ignore it, but in a trial you will be in trouble.

I would also add, how wide the dog with extra mouth works the check can be a factor too. For example, if the dog has extra mouth but is VERY tight in the check, it is not going to throw us off as much as if he is stretching out or swinging and popping his mouth the whole time. That second case is much uglier.

 

[mitch huguet]

Run her every single day till she quits, got no more hair on her or she can't stand up.

Something will give. It will either make or break her. Feed the tracks to her.

Run em and run em long hard and regular.

Run her till she can't bark if she can take it give it to her.

She will get right or you will soon know exactly what to do.

 

[John Taylor]

I was about to post almost exactly what Mitch just posted above!!!! Tracks, tracks and more tracks.

 

[bcline73]

This spring I’m going to try and run the pads off her feet to see if she’ll make a dog or not, thanks for the tips!

 

[Hippy]

How is she bred ??

IMHO they can be run out as Mitch mentioned BUTT a 7 months old she still "Doesn't understand all she Knows bout it" If she is worth keeping except 4 the MOUTH run her BUTT don't give up on her till at least 15-18 months old

Good Luck

Jim

 

[Foxxy]

Solo her, run her a lot, she more then likely has a cold nose, right now it’s an annoyance but on a poor running day she will be the one who stays and can run a rabbit. All dogs have their place and her place is a colder nose dog, that’s a little mouthy, smells the scent better then the others.
If you run her solo and as she matures she might get the smarts not to bark as much.
For rabbit hunting I like a cold nose dog, had a few and given some time they will jump the rabbit. The other dogs come in to check and don’t make a bark, once rabbit is jumped now the pack is rolling. JMO

 

[bcline73]

How is she bred ??

IMHO they can be run out as Mitch mentioned BUTT a 7 months old she still "Doesn't understand all she Knows bout it" If she is worth keeping except 4 the MOUTH run her BUTT don't give up on her till at least 15-18 months old

Good Luck

Jim

Have you ever seen a dog turn around from this between the age of 7 months and 18 months?

 

[bcline73]

Solo her, run her a lot, she more then likely has a cold nose, right now it’s an annoyance but on a poor running day she will be the one who stays and can run a rabbit. All dogs have their place and her place is a colder nose dog, that’s a little mouthy, smells the scent better then the others.
If you run her solo and as she matures she might get the smarts not to bark as much.
For rabbit hunting I like a cold nose dog, had a few and given some time they will jump the rabbit. The other dogs come in to check and don’t make a bark, once rabbit is jumped now the pack is rolling. JMO

That’s what I’m hoping this turns out to be.

 

[Gene Fedor]

No. But my "mouthy" dog can also run in minus degree, on ice. That being said, I prefer a more honest mouth, she is 8 yrs old, it got a little better, but still a cold nose as they call it, I only a hunter, not a trial guy, so she isn't going anywhere, has alot of grit, hunt, and can run a rabbit good

 

[bcline73]

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[JOHN MAYNARD]

Have you ever seen a dog turn around from this between the age of 7 months and 18 months?

Keep a good switch with you when soloing and brace..When soon as starts that crap wake few good times when she first started and holler at her real loud cut it out..Also we’re staying in a check to long I give her a second and watch her and scold her real good every time with the other dog..in the were to switch the time or to really hard and tell her to cut it out..As mention with Mitch & others run the hair off of her but a good switch if you can stay on top of her with it not with very young pups ..Consistently for a few weeks will never hurt the situation..Then when you holler and scold her she will know the meaning.. jmo. I’ve done it to a few hounds over the years with a good boot when needed for different reasons..Specially back when there was no collars deer runners cold nose backtrack you name it .. when there’s an old dog and been doing it for years not much luck be moving on quick..

 

[jeffro]

Mitch is on to something If she is not getting run a lot she may show some extra Just from excitement However If you are feeding her plenty of tracks I doubt it will get better She is what she is.Usually one that has extra from sitting up shows when you just put em down not in the check areas after they have had time lock on and get him running good JMO