If anyone needs to start some pups, I know where a pen is. A friend of mine has a two acre pen with plenty of rabbits. She has asked me to get the word out to anyone that may be interested. If you would like more information please PM me and I can give you her phone number. I have started four or five pups there myself and usually, depending on the dog, they are running in a week. Just got two 6 month old pups out that are doing very good.