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Old 02-15-2017, 02:23 PM   #1
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wanting to get a beagle, wife says if we get one it stays in the house which i have no problem with, dog will have to run on his own, so i should be looking at pups to train, i have places to put the dog on rabbits, also a fenced in backyard to get the dog started with tame rabbits,

is there a certain bloodline i should be looking at, or is this just a pipe dream lol

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Old 02-15-2017, 03:16 PM   #2
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Have you trained a Beagle to run rabbit before?


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Old 02-15-2017, 04:06 PM   #3
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No I haven't, been around a lot of them, friend has trained his, ive trained several labs, and a couple Australian Shepherd's. If the dog has running rabbits breed into it, just need to give them lots of opportunities, with that said I have never collar condition a dog,

I borrowed a collar for one of my labs, he was chasing deer on the walk into the blind, but that's all I've done
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:42 PM   #4
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You don't need a certain blood line but it doesn't hurt to have a good blood line.(a proven line) You don't need to spend crazy money. You need to trust who your getting dog from. If your only hunting with it then papers are not important. Good luck
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Old 02-15-2017, 06:14 PM   #5
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When I got into this, I went to look at a 6 month old dog. We took her to a running pen and the guy that owned the pen agreed to sell me a 5 year old running dog too and in the next year if I wanted to sell her back to him he would give me the same price. A great deal! That 5 year old made everything so easy. I learned as much from her as the pup did. I wouldn't have sold her back for twice the money. He let me run in his pen when I wanted and we became great friends. When a person asks me how they should get started, I always tell them that story. I love running my dogs, and that old girl is a big reason why. My opinion is, find a person with some nice older dogs that will take you under his wing, and pay a little more for a good running dog. Build a friendship with the other hunter and you can't go wrong. My friend did me a huge favor selling me old anny and I'm very greatful.
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Old 02-16-2017, 06:19 AM   #6
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When I got into this, I went to look at a 6 month old dog. We took her to a running pen and the guy that owned the pen agreed to sell me a 5 year old running dog too and in the next year if I wanted to sell her back to him he would give me the same price. A great deal! That 5 year old made everything so easy. I learned as much from her as the pup did. I wouldn't have sold her back for twice the money. He let me run in his pen when I wanted and we became great friends. When a person asks me how they should get started, I always tell them that story. I love running my dogs, and that old girl is a big reason why. My opinion is, find a person with some nice older dogs that will take you under his wing, and pay a little more for a good running dog. Build a friendship with the other hunter and you can't go wrong. My friend did me a huge favor selling me old anny and I'm very greatful.
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Old 02-16-2017, 07:51 AM   #7
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If you get a dog and it stays in the house you will more than likely keep the dog til it dies. So don't get stuck with one that can't run a rabbit. If you buy a pup you have less than 20% chance that pup will turn into the exact hunting dog you are looking for. Spend the money and buy a proven rabbit dog that you have taken out and seen it hunt. It's hard but not impossible to hunt with 1 dog. If you have plenty of rabbits might not be an issue. If you buy a pup that lives on the couch and try to train it yourself your going to end up with a pet.
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:07 AM   #8
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Lanerae beagles has a male that is available that is an AKC show champion and has places in the field. It is housebroke and she is wanting it to go to a home that will let him be a housedog and hunter. Might be worth checking out. Website is Laneraebeagles.com
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:24 AM   #9
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thanks for the info poorboy
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Old 02-16-2017, 11:06 AM   #10
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I will agree that when keeping a dog in the house you get attached to em and will keep them for life. I have started with pups in the house and have been able to get them to hunt, but you do get a dog you don't want to move and have to live with it's faults. Had a gyp that I did that with, and she was soloed almost exclusively for years. Was the best at finding rabbits I've seen , I guess cause for most of her life if she wanted to run one she had to find it first
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:53 PM   #11
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Go with hornbeams suggestion. I bought a pup and got lucky she sleeps on a dog bed under my bed every night we kennel her during the day but she will run the hair off a rabbit then sleep all day. I wouldn't get rid of her because she's my buddy but there are definite challenges to keeping a good hunting dog in the house. They are always hunting... hunting trash cans to turn over, hunting for treat hand outs, hunting for mail men to bay at etc lol. The upside is that dog is just as connected to you as you are to it. I never worry about calling her in she handles like a dream and she pretty much does what I ask her to. She hunts for me. I think it's important to have friends that also run dogs so she can run with a pack from time to time and I take mine to a running/ conditioning pen for a week during the summer (vacation) and a week or two in October or November before rabbit season. In my case I got a weir creek gyp as a pup who has no extra mouth is a great track dog and nice and tight in a check she does jump a few because she has to but I wouldn't call her a jump dog. She's not the perfect gun dog but there is no better feeling than to take 1 dog out and have your buddies see and hear her circle a rabbit then shoot it in front of her. I think I got lucky. There are a lot of dogs out there that can't run their own consistently. I'm very happy with her but if I was doing it over I would have bought a pair.
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:57 PM   #12
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Hunting season here last 3 months and some change. The rest of the year she gets run but she's my companion. Good luck finding the right one for you I wouldn't take the world for mine.
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Old 02-16-2017, 07:17 PM   #13
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That last picture is cute
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:07 PM   #14
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I have had REAL good luck with "Half-Breed" dogs AKA Half Rabbit-Half House. The two I have know are HEAVY Bear Breed and IMHO they are easy to House train as well as on Rabbits.
I had one Older Gyp (5 year CoCo Star) that needed a Hernia operation even though I keep my dogs in above ground kennels the Vet insisted on her NOT being in the Kennel.
Took her inside and she NEVER Messed for the 3 weeks she was there even Crate trained her .

IMHO they handle a LOT better in the field as no Collars are needed the only issue is they may be too dependant on knowing where you are when in the field

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